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Post by PQ on Mar 1, 2004 14:20:06 GMT -5
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Post by psychobilly on Mar 1, 2004 14:46:51 GMT -5
hmm pq...... Strange. my first guess is improper gear set-up but youve put enough miles on her that I think it would of blown apart or start makin noise if that were the case. Try to use a regular 90 wt gear oil, it aint gonna hurt anything and I suggest it cuz I know you use the synthetic and if your gears are set up correctly then the oils gots to be the problem. Do you have a trac lok in that?
oh, bout that diff cover, dont use a gasket, just use the smooge and dont over tighten it, it will never leak again.
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Post by muckster on Mar 1, 2004 16:48:28 GMT -5
i'm with billy on that one. try some good 90 wt. some of that synthetic stuff is junk. it lets air mix in with it that causes pressure. and them little air bubbles cause metal to metal action witch produces heat and wear on the gears. one of the best types of synthetic oils you can buy is lubrication engineers (LE) but unless your with some company, it is hard to get.
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Post by Crip on Mar 1, 2004 17:06:28 GMT -5
Sorry, but I think you have a bad bearing, causing heat build up, anything else would cause noise.
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Post by PQ on Mar 1, 2004 17:34:49 GMT -5
Geezs I hope is ain't a bearin I was told to never put anything but synth. oil in there,,,, I was outside so missed the dudes call who did my gears but I'll get with him tommora, cuz if it is a bearin it ain't that old and I want it replaced.
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Post by psychobilly on Mar 1, 2004 18:37:43 GMT -5
I think a negative on the bearing thing, if its bad enough to get that hot then the bearing would be making an un-godly amont of noise, or it would of fallen apart by now cuz the amount of friction to make it that hot would kill a bearing quick. Whoever told ya to only run the synthetic earl pq was "assuming" it was better the same way people who dont know any better assume quadra-trac or chevys are better....hey wait a minute....eh back to that chevy thing later... either that or was trying to sell somthing. try the regular 90 wt, its real easy to do and wont hurt a thing, if it still gets hot and bubbles out you know to look elsewhere. Its conductive reasoning-start with what is different from any normal working 8.8-change it to the norm and go from there, if it still does it then time for a rear end rebuild and gear set-up but I am pretty confident it will help big time, especially since it gets hottest when towing-that supports mucksters theory with the air and metal to metal-more presure-more metal to metal yeilds more heat which signifies improper lubrication. Drain it all, use smooge only and stick it back together not overtightening and I bet yer hooked up
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Post by PQ on Mar 1, 2004 21:14:53 GMT -5
I alway smooge it only......will try the 90 wieght then and see if that helps..... could it be the synth. oil is breakin down and cuzzin the bubbles cuz dang the oil is black as black can be......I haven't changed it for about 10,000 miles or more
Thanks!
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Post by psychobilly on Mar 2, 2004 1:23:54 GMT -5
I read some stuff before on synthetics about most of them not being anywhere near as good as petrolem oils for areas of high pressure between metals like a crank journal tranny gears or ring and pinion, cant remember the reasoning behind it or if it was a reliable source. I read where you said that your oil expands when it gets hot to fill up over the fill plug, this makes me think its not so much the heat (wouldnt expand that much or would loose all viscosity) but more of what muck was talkin bout, many many small traped air bubbles. if the reg earl helps but its still heating up then rip it down check out the R+P and replace yer bearins, crip is right in sayin a bad bearin will make heat but synthetic earls wont boil out a vent till they reach like 400-500 degrees F. so if its bearin related it will be more tan just one and they will be ready to blow to bits cuz thats a whole lots of heat and that says a whole lot of problems.
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Post by PQ on Mar 2, 2004 14:03:30 GMT -5
Ok today Mark said it could be cuzzed by two things....breather is to long and some oil got up in the line and clogged it so it built pressure and then spit the oil out and that's how the seal broke loose too.... or the brakes are heatin up cuz the overheatin of the fluil....also told me to always run synth. oil but go 75/90 instead of what I was usin.....
so gonna shortin the line and make sure it clear and pull the cover and resmooge it.....then see what happens
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Post by muckster on Mar 2, 2004 18:13:18 GMT -5
ok.... the vent hose being clogged, i can buy that. but the brakes gettin hot and over heating the fluid...i don't know. if the brakes are dragging that much to get hot enough to over heat the fluid...that thing should be shaking and smoking down the highway with the smell of burning brakes making you sick. NOT all synthetic lube's are good! if your gotta run it, make sure you buy good stuff. nothin made by quakerstate or some store brand. spend a little extra and get some good stuff.
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Post by psychobilly on Mar 2, 2004 19:55:51 GMT -5
Well pq in trying to solve your problems (or maybe pull one over on ya) that guy has revealed his ignorance to me. Translated---he has no idea what the fawk hes talkin bout. No doubt about it that brake heat theory is a big pile of bs talk, he is clueless it is not your brakes getting hot I cant even come close to stressing how much of a farce that is and either he is a dumb fawk or he dont wanna say..."maybe I got them set-up a lil to tight", either way remind me to never deal with him cuz he is either not knowledgable or is a shiester. Switching to a lighter synthetic will agrivate your problem, use the regular earl pq i cant stess how strongly I urge this, while i cant guarantee it will fix it I can tell you it is the correct path to take in trying to determine your problem.
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Post by PQ on Mar 2, 2004 20:27:31 GMT -5
The only reason he sugested the brakes as a last alturntive was the fact he had two trucks come in with that problem recently..... and no the brakes was just hangin up and heating up not burnin and smokin or nothin but that was their problem.
I believe it was the long breather so I took it back to stock lenth and made sure the passage was free....now can't redo the cover till I go and get Blue back cuz my allen wrench for takin the bolts out is in her toolbox....so the test will be when I tow her back home.
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Post by psychobilly on Mar 2, 2004 20:46:19 GMT -5
I think the breather was a good call but for the brakes to heat that much it would show signs elsewhere like muckster has stated. They would be shot and warped so bad it would be silly. The aluminum wheels on that thing will disapate the heat real well from the brakes so it would take a whole lots of pad rubbin to make the kind of heat you imply. Brake stickin was not an option.
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Post by PQ on Mar 3, 2004 6:42:15 GMT -5
Good to no cuz ya no how much I like brake problems...
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Post by PQ on Mar 6, 2004 18:25:42 GMT -5
pulled the cover today......no metal in the oil.....thank goodness! but the smooge seal at the top of diff was totally blown out.......cleaned her up and put it back together to now we'll wait and see......
then on the way to Lowes today the dang engine like comes on ...Again!
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